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HP Pavilion TX2510US 12.1-inch Laptop (2.10 GHz AMD Turion X2 ZM-80 Processor, 3 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive, DVD Drive, Vista Premium) Black
HP Pavilion TX2510US 12.1-inch Laptop (2.10 GHz  AMD Turion X2 ZM-80 Processor, 3 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive, DVD Drive, Vista Premium) Black
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Brand: Hewlett-Packard
Category: Personal Computer

List Price: $1,375.00
Buy New: $979.00
You Save: $396.00 (29%)
Buy New/Refurbished

Avg. Customer Rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars(20 reviews)
Sales Rank: 54

Color: Black
Media: Personal Computers
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Batteries Included: Yes
CPU Manufacturer: AMD
CPU Speed: 2.1
CPU Type: AMD Turion 64
Processors: 2
System Memory: 3000
Memory Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive Size: 250
Special Features: nv:Condition^New|Operating Systems^Windows VistaTM Home Premium|Platform^Notebook / Tablet PC|Expansion Ports^1 - Express Card Slot/34|PS/2 Mouse Connectors^N/A|PS/2 Keyboard Connectors^N/A|Serial Communication Ports^N/A|Parallel Ports^N/A|USB Ports^3|FireWire Ports^N/A|Fast Infrared Ports (FIR)^2 - Consumer IR|LAN Ports^1|Modem Ports^1|Audio Out Jacks^1 - SPDIF|Line In Jacks^N/A|Microphone Jacks^1|VGA Ports^1|S-Video Connectors^1 - TV Out|DVI Video^N/A|HDMI Ports^N/A
Display Size: 12.1
Shipping Weight (lbs): 7.3
Dimensions (in): 8.8 x 12.1 x 1.5

MPN: FE912UA
Model: TX2510US
UPC: 884420154266
EAN: 0884420154266
ASIN: B0019HGU0M

Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days

Features:
  • 12.1-inch (Diagonal) Widescreen Integrated Touch Screen, Convertible Display 1280 x 800, Panel Rotates 180 Degrees and Folds Flat
  • 2.10 GHz AMD Turion X2 ZM-80 Ultra Dual Core Mobile Processor with 2 MB L2 Cache
  • 3072 MB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm), 250 GB (5400RPM) Hard Drive (SATA), ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics RS780M with 64 MB DDR2 (Sideport Memory) with up to 1470 MB Total Graphics Memory
  • LightScribe Super Multi 8X DVDR/RW with Double Layer Support, Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n and Bluetooth
  • Windows Vista Home Premium, dims in inches: 8.82 (W) x 12.05 (L) x 1.52 (H) approx., 4.56 lbs.

Accessories:

  • SwissGear Black Rolling Briefcase (Black)
  • SwissGear Black Rolling Computer Briefcase (Black)
  • SwissGear Computer Backpack (Gray/Red)
  • SwissGear Computer Backpack (Dark Gray/Light Gray)
  • SwissGear Computer Backpack (Black/Light Gray)

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Editorial Reviews:

Product Description
For those whose active lives require constant access to high-performance, easy-to-use computing and communication tools, the HP Pavilion TX2510US Entertainment Notebook PC provides the ideal convergence of these features with exceptional entertainment options. And it's light enough to take everywhere! Its 12.1? screen twists 180 for presentations and DVD playback - and folds flat to enable the convenience of capturing hand-written notes and drawings. Interact directly with your system using your finger or stylus. Erasing notes on your screen is just like using a pencil: flip the pen over and erase! Use Windows Journal to take notes as you would on notebook paper. The TX2510US can convert handwriting into typed text and is perfect for a person who's always on the go! Staying in touch has never been easier with the integrated HP Webcam. With AMD Turion X2 dual core mobile technology and the same viewable screen content as a 15.4" system, the TX2510US provides all the power and performance of a mainstream notebook PC without the additional weight. 12.1? diagonal WXGA (1280 x 800) BrightView Widescreen Touch-screen display, Panel rotates 180 degrees and folds flat ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics RS780M with up to 1470 MB Shared Graphics Memory Built-in Webcam and Microphone LightScribe Super Multi 8 x DVD+-R/RW Drive with Double Layer 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN Bluetooth Fingerprint reader 5-in-1 Bridge Media Adapter - MMC, SD, MS, MS Pro, xD ExpressCard 34 Slot 3 x USB 2.0, Headphone out; SPDIF Digital Audio, Microphone-in, VGA, TV-Out (S-Video), RJ-11 (Modem), RJ-45 Approximate Unit Dimensions - 8.82? (L) x 12.05? (W) x 1.52? (H) Approximate Unit Weight - 4.56 pounds (with weight-saver)


Customer Reviews:   Read 15 more reviews...

1 out of 5 stars Slow Laptop with Major Annoyances   November 17, 2008
  3 out of 3 found this review helpful

In a nutshell, this was my first ever AMD-based PC. But I can guarantee that it will be the last. It will also likely be my last HP laptop.

When I was on the lookout for a tablet PC, the HP TX-1000 stood out like a Christmas tree in terms of the price. It was less than half of any other tablet PC on the market. So even though HP has absolutely no pedigree in creating tablets (and I'll tell you why shortly) the price alone made for a compelling reason to consider it. The more I looked at it, the more attracted I got to it. Add to that situation the fact that I had very recently acquired an HP desktop, which had totally blown me away with its presentation (especially over Dell). It was so much better (in every possible way) than Dell - at a cheaper price that I started thinking that it was possible that sometimes you did get more than you paid for. I thought HP had once again finally arrived as a serious player in the PC arena.

And then came this HP laptop, very rudely yanking me into the realm of reality. Boy, was I ever mistaken about the company. Did I ever jump the gun on passing a judgment. Was I ever wrong about getting more than you pay for. At the risk of sounding repetitive, this HP laptop jolted me into an extremely rude awakening. I can't say enough about what a HUGE disappointment it was to me.

Speed. First of all, the laptop was just plain slow. It's the slowest computer I have ever used. Ever. It's relatively even slower than the iMac I had some ten years ago (back then, the iMac was - relatively speaking -- the slowest computer I had ever owned, and was annoying enough that I returned it after two weeks of slow running, crashing, and not finding any software that ran on it). For something that claims to be a using a 64-bit processor and 2 GB of RAM, this laptop crawls slower than a sick turtle. After a few weeks of tweaking around, I found the reason for that - the AMD Turion and HP's sorry excuse of a motherboard. My venerable Dell m700 (with Celeron and 1 GB of RAM) easily outperformed this manifestation of lethargy in any number of performance tests and I/O benchmarks that I had created (from real-life scenarios in which I was using both the laptops). So then, I came to the conclusion that the only reason HP was selling AMD was so that it could sell a tablet PC for half the price of its competitors.

Wireless. The second reason for relentless vexation was the wireless card. It would just randomly stop working every now and then, and would never work again until I rebooted the laptop. I called HP and had the card replaced. That solved the problem enough so that it doesn't happen quite as often, but it still happens once in a while. However, I was to later learn (as recently as a few weeks ago) that I was one of the lucky few who actually got it working (even if it was not a complete cure) with a replacement card. The issue seems to run much deeper than the card itself. In fact, if you go to HP forums, you will hear constant noise about how the wireless problem breeds from a sinister defect in the motherboard, and how every laptop they've ever released in this series actually will eventually stop working (usually a couple of months after the warranty expires). I am now starting to see other signs that indicate that mine's only a few weeks (if not days) from that fate (see the "spooky turning on" a few paragraphs down). Another reason this laptop is so cheap - HP compromised on the motherboard, as well as the wireless card.

BIOS. I have had laptops going back to my old Quantex (dating back to 10 years ago), that used to have BIOSes smart enough to tell when the battery was about to run out of juice. They would then warn if you tried to start your laptop on low battery. On the flip side, they WOULDN'T warn if your battery was charged a 100%. This brilliant offering from HP, on the other hand, keeps warning you even if you just replaced your depleted battery with a fully charged battery. I am so used to this basic functionality in all my other laptops that when I replace my battery on the train, turn it back on and go back to my phone to check messages, I come back a minute or two later and expect that I am at the log on screen. But to my utter exasperation, I find each time that I am still stuck at the annoying BIOS message that warns me of a LOW BATTERY!!! So the laptop simply won't go ahead and boot unless I hit the Enter key. I can't imagine how much time I have wasted due to this. (Moreover, I probably lost a couple of years of my life due to the rise in blood pressure, and my already precarious spot in a good place in the afterlife due the choice curse words I have uttered each time.)

But if that's an annoyance, what it does when the battery is low is downright scary. When the battery is 25% or lower, and you start the laptop not knowing how much battery is remaining, it starts up without warning you at all. But that's not the problem - in fact, it's a good thing. The problem is, it just dies when the battery reaches critical mass, without EVER attempting to hibernate (as my laptop is configured to). It just goes poof - and SHUTS DOWN! Just like that! That means all my unsaved work up until that point is completely lost. It happened to me twice before I realized what insidious bug was causing the problem. I have now started keeping track of the battery levels when I hibernate the laptop, never turning it back on if the level was below the 25% level at the time of hibernation.

Another annoying thing about the BIOS is that over the past two weeks, it just randomly turns on! I don't recall doing anything to it. Randomly, in the middle of the night, the laptop just turns on! It could be some weird wake-on-LAN setting that got tweaked, or maybe my laptop is about to die (like the other ten thousand or so owners), or it's possessed by evil spirits. But it just turns on and wakes me up almost every night! Of course, when it happens in the middle of the night, I'm too sleepy to resolve the issue. When I'm wide awake, I forget to investigate. As a result, the problem has continued for the past two weeks.

Track Pad. The track pad in its initial setting was unusable. Even after month of tweaking, the base of my thumb would keep touching the pad and make the cursor jump to another part of the document. It was small enough a problem, but annoying enough that at one point, I wanted to return the laptop. I finally hit the sensitivity setting that resolved this issue.

Active/Passive Pen & the Display. One of the biggest disappointments was the fact that the TX-1000 does not use an active pen to do its tablet work. That was another way HP managed to cut costs and make the tablet seem like a no-brainer over the other vendors, at least in terms of the price. The fact is, the passive pen is absolutely useless, and the touch screen very insensitive. In fact, at times, I have had to press so hard that I'm almost afraid that I might end up breaking the screen! An active pen is a thing of beauty, and a joy to behold. It comes with features such as mouse moving with a hover, the ability to erase text with the opposite side of the pen (as with a regular pencil on paper), and the pleasure of writing effortlessly on the screen. You get none of that with HP's TX-1000.

In any case, the "passive" pen technology has been around for ages in all the Pocket PC's, which work impeccably with a stylus (I've owned the renowned (and my favorite HP hardware) HP Jornada 548, The Dell Axim, Samsung i730, and most recently the AT&T Tilt - which BTW also work pretty well with just your thumb). On top of that, every one of the pocket PC's have had a crisper, brighter display. And none of them ever showed the underlying touch grid on the screen. I could barely see it on the Samsung, and that too, only if I stared hard in broad daylight. But it was never a distraction. On this laptop, the display is terrible. It's faded, low contrast, and shows the underlying grid even in moderate lighting (such as on a train), which turns out to be a major distraction. In broad daylight, working with this laptop is not recommended. I have since gotten used to this and have swallowed it like a bitter pill.

So if those things aren't bad enough already, consider the regular litany of annoying HP software/crapware that arrogantly starts up with Windows (msconfig.exe has become my best friend ever since I started buying off-the-shelf PC's). HP is arguably the worst software producer of all. HP software is only mildly benign than a virus. What makes it more dangerous than all the other free garbage out there is the sanctimonious attitude with which they add it in there. "Oh, you probably don't know what you're doing. Therefore, here's our offering to protect you from yourself." When in fact 90% of all problems are caused by the software starting up on Startup. It's ironic that when I was speaking with an HP tech for resolving my wireless issue, the first thing he made me do was turn off all the "crap" that loads up at Windows Startup. WITHOUT EXCEPTION, every one of the apps/utilities we turned off were from HP.

So why did I even bother to give it one star? Several reasons:
1.I couldn't rate it any lower ;-).
2.The full-size keyboard is decent.
3.Contrary to what I had expected, the swiveling hinge which connects the screen to the rest of the laptop is pretty solid and doesn't rattle on the train, as some of my skeptical friends had predicted.
4.I upgraded it to Vista Ultimate, and everything worked smoothly. In fact, after the upgrade (and applying SP1), the laptop has been slightly more stable.
5.I just like Vista better than XP in most respects (but that has absolutely nothing to do with the laptop).
6.Unlike the ten thousand or so poor devils out there who own the TX series, my wireless issues almost got resolved, and my laptop is still breathing.

So the one thing I did learn was, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Then there was this other little gem that reinforced itself - you get what you pay for.




3 out of 5 stars You have better options   November 15, 2008
  0 out of 1 found this review helpful

This machine is maximum a 3 star. It gets very hot and the battery life is not good at all. The HP program + NORTON AV makes it slow and the AMD does not perform as Intel duos family. The touch screen is a good in just a few cases, if you do not need it go to traditional screen that is too much brighter and friendly to the user. Also the machin is very thick, so is hard to fit in some laptop sleeves or backpacks. I paid almost USD1000 for a computer that has not the performance of a USD700 Toshiba.


5 out of 5 stars Hp pavillion tx2510us   November 12, 2008
small machine and very easy to operate tons of memory and fast processorI love the way this machine works great quality and very handy I dont regret at all the new computer upgrade thanks all...


5 out of 5 stars Most affordable Tablet PC   October 23, 2008
  2 out of 2 found this review helpful

This is much improved from the tx1000z. The tx2500z has an active digitizer pen and is a welcome addition. I got the 2.4gHz processor and is pretty fast. As the title says it's the most affordable tablet around. Yes it does get warm and I position the air outlet on the top to avoid the warm exhaust. You can adjust the power mode and minimize the temp. I gave this tablet to my son for college and I advice getting OneNote since it will have free form writing ability within the program. There's going to be a tablet netbook but I rather have a dvd player on mines. The main con besides the temp is battery life. Get the larger battery and you'll be much happier. Vista runs great on it. No BSOD or any problems yet since it was purchased.


5 out of 5 stars Very nice!!!   October 21, 2008
  1 out of 1 found this review helpful

I've bought this laptop last month and, for now, I have nothing to complain about it.

In fact, it's powerful, it's small and it's fun.

It worths the price.


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